A so-called ‘liberty’ rebellion, lead by Ammon Bundy the man famous for leading an armed takeover of a Oregon wildlife refuge, has reportedly begun in Idaho as a form of protest against what some believe are draconian Coronavirus lockdown orders.
As dnyuz.com reports:
SANDPOINT, Idaho — Inside an old factory building north of Boise, a few dozen people gathered last week to hear from Ammon Bundy, the man who once led an armed takeover of an Oregon wildlife refuge.
The meeting, which appeared to violate orders by Gov. Brad Little of Idaho to avoid group gatherings, was an assertion of what Mr. Bundy said was a constitutional right to peacefully assemble. But Mr. Bundy said he also hoped to create a network of people ready to come to the aid of those facing closure of their businesses or other interference from the government as a result of the coronavirus outbreak.
“If it gets bad enough, and our rights are infringed upon enough, we can physically stand in defense in whatever way we need to,” Mr. Bundy told the meeting. “But we hope we don’t have to get there.”
In a state with pockets of deep wariness about both big government and mainstream medicine, the sweeping restrictions aimed at containing the spread of the virus have run into outright rebellion in some parts of Idaho, which is facing its own worrying spike in coronavirus cases.
As of Monday the state had recorded 1,170 cases of the virus and 13 deaths, with officials fearing those numbers may rise if residents refuse to comply with lockdown guidelines.
I can.t believe some of these comments particularly when governments across this country are taking giant liberties with our constitutional rights. This virus is the most hyped and sensationalized in the history of man. It’s by far not the biggest nor the most dangerous. The scary projections are way off. Remember 2.2 million deaths in the USA ? Since when do we live our lives by projections ? Where were many of you during the Swine flu when 63 million Americans were infected with it ? I bet you don’t even remember ! Doctors and nurses are being furloughed ! What happened to the bed shortage ? Spanish flu was around for 3 years. You cannot hide from a virus for years. It’s time to start going back to work. Millions of people were put out of work and don’t deserve to lose their businesses or homes. Are we going to do this every 6 months or every year ? I’d rather have the virus than go into financial collapse. What good is it to be virus free but have no income ! We’re Americans….home of the brave….we won’t cower in our homes forever for a mild flu !
The problem is not whether YOU would rather have the virus or not, it’s how many people’s lives you affect when you come into contact with them. There is a reason that the smartest minds in the world are making the decisions that have to be made for the greater good, and not people like you who are apparently only concerned with yourself!
So tell us, does the Constitution matter or not? Is it just a piece of paper that government can interpret any way it wants?
By the way, I believe in and practice social distancing. However, I refuse to abandon the concept of a democratic (VERY SMALL d) REPUBLIC under the rule of true exegetical Constitutional Law.
You are absolutely spot on. The democRATS hate Donald Trump so much for beating Hildbeast that they will do whatever it takes to take him down. What should happen is the democommies should all be rounded up and deported to some place like Venezuela or Cuba or North Korea to give them a real taste of what socialism / communism is like. Let them try it out to see how long they will last without the benefits they live with daily. I know a lot of people that would be willing to help them leave the US. In fact we should demand it.
Brody, My question through all this, after comments of “the greater good”, is how is sacrificing the the livelihoods, civil liberties and mental health of 90%+ of the population to protect the, at worst case scenario, 2% of the population “for the greater good”? Will people get sick and maybe die? Of course, they will and would even without this virus around. Living life is a risky business, no one gets out alive. The best we can hope for is to live it freely. How much liberty and prosperity are going to allow to be destroyed for our children and grandchildren?
Hm? So tell me, all these finest minds, how come it is just now, over a flu bug, that they decided to be ‘the finest minds’? As for affecting lives, that happens day in and day out, tens of thousands of people pass from this world daily. That is life, sad, yes, tragic, certainly, but JUST NOW something these “fine minds” of yours just decided to ruin much more lives, gain political points, pretend to be ‘saviors’- forgive me if I do not agree with your foolish and naive assessments of what makes a mind fine.
I don’t want to sound like a “conspiracy nut” but based on how much of the information we are being bombarded with from the MSM and the way the democommies are acting I would not be surprised to find out that the China alleged i accidental release of the Covid-19 was not an accident at all. Just a continuation of attempts to take Trump down by any means necessary. Right now much is being reported that the numbers and predicted numbers of cases and deaths are not based on fact but on model predictions. Have the democRATS not been blatantly lying and manipulating most of the news outlets bashing Trump and his supporters since long before the 2016 election? Not saying the Covid-19 is a hoax but it is “a good crisis not to be allowed to be wasted”. What is a question in my mind is how much in bed are the democRATS with the Chinese? I think investigation should be going on right now since China seems to be reporting zero new cases in the epicenter itself. How convenient that the place where it all started is now done with it, while the rest of the world is still reeling? Think about it !
Time to get back to living, time to get back to work. Some folks are happy to suck off the government teat for as long as they possibly can, but life’s not an endless holiday. We have to get going or our economy will tank just like the democrats would love for it to do. The President has done a great job in shepherding the country but let’s get the train back on track.
I had immense respect for Bundy after he led his protests against the ranchers and the sit-in in Oregon. I liked him to the patriots of the Aboriginal Rights Movement and their armed occupation of federal land.
All of that respect for him is GONE. What a scumbag. He should be ashamed of himself. EVEN LIBERTARIANS accept the quarantine FOR A REASON!
Not that I am “anti-liberty” but this ass needs to be arrested, and taken to the nearest hospital ICU where Covid patients are sequestered. There, he should be released from his handcuffs, with no mask or other protective wear, to tend for a week to the Covid sick and dying. Then, he should be placed in isolation for a few weeks, and if infected, given a cell, isolated feeding and waste disposal, and a bottle of Coke with rum to tide him through.
I think a lot of people are weary of being pent up and ready to take their chances. It may not take much for him to get a following. I find myself wondering if the risk out ways the benefits. So many small businesses are going to hit the tubes. some giants I think may feel the crunch as well. however I think we should hang in there and see the results of the shut down. After all we have recovered from hard times before. there are several plans in line to help recover. The unknown is making everyone edgy.
I feel like ammon bundy may have had a point during the refuge stand off…. that being said ammon bundy is NOW Endangering the Public welfare, and it may be time for the feds to go fruitcake shopping…Stroll in handcuff him and anyone in the way, if they offer armed resistance, well two or three dozen mags from federal machine pistol’s in an enclosed space should settle the rebellion, I’m sure the secret service can offer a couple dozen and ammo, use the heavy 147 grain subsonic, better stopping power.
One person can infect 10 or more, it would break my heart to know that I was that 1 person. I would rather suffer the inconvenience of sheltering in place and social distancing than cause a fire over which I could have controlled.
Well, look at it this way: If Idaho ends up being the only state that does not comply with the lockdown order, it will stand as an example as to whether the lockdowns do any good, at all. The statistics, if correct, will tell the story.
Kudos to Mr. Bundy. All of us should be wary of what is occurring under the guise of this virus. It’s up to us, as citizens of a Republic, to defend our natural rights and liberty.
It happened in 1918 AD and it happened in 2020 AD. Pestilence is a life or death scenario. Suck it up and sit inside or you’ll be watching the hospitals decide who lives and who dies. This is a VERY personal issue to me because my grandfather is in the highest category of risk.
I have skin in this game.
I HAD nothing but respect for Bundy after his patriotic, armed defense of his fellow Americans.
NOT ANYMORE. What a scumbag.
The death toll is small. .029%. The infection is 50/50. Some have it, some have it bad and then there’s malaria and another drug that work, but not released. It’s not a cure but a remedy. The big question is, Are these globalists looking to kill off the Older baby boomers now instead of letting them die at 85-90+ while living longer and using govt funds for long term? Look at the outcome. It’s absolutely designed for the less healthy, and older population. SSN was sold as a financial plan for widowed women in their 60’s…before the polio vaccine. When the avg lifespan was 55! Makes you wonder, did the Chicoms invent this to kill off their older population? I hear they are murdering and burning cv19 deathly ill older adults…..alive!!
I don’t believe WHO in the slightest, but I do believe Trump and his CDC.
1. The mortality rate is 2.3%, but only for NORMAL people. For Boomers, it’s one in three. By comparison, influenza’s rate is 0.1% .
2. As an example about globalists, George Soros is a nation-hating globalist that wants to abolish all borders and national sovereignty. He is NOT a Marxist. He was the money behind Reagan and Thatcher’s efforts to break the Soviet Union. There isn’t a bigger anti-Marxist alive than him. Therefore, he has ZERO power in China.
3. Assuming the virus originated in the Wuhan laboratory (which is highly likely), all evidence and support for this argument coincide entirely with poor lab safety. COVID had been a known thing inside bats for years, and it was studied there. Someone probably sold it to the market for a buck instead of burning the meat like they were supposed to do.
4. The virus was not engineered. China’s pathetic cover-up is in and of itself proof.
5. Trump proposed and cleared the malaria drug. Human trials are working right now.
Brilliant. The guy made famous for grazing his cattle on public lands and then throwing a snowflake hissyfit when called out for it is now worried about Liberty because our entire country is fighting an invisible virus, and it seems the only surefire way to avoid contaminating each other is to keep our distance. They want to be so “ruggedly independent”? They don’t need the Feds to tell them anything? They can take care of themselves? Great: Continue meeting in large groups and don’t bother clogging up the hospital system when you can’t breathe. Take care of it yourself. Just stay the hell away from the rest of us, living in reality and trying to stay healthy. Not interested in your fever dreams about ‘evil government’ around every corner. [*Trump’s* government, no less. Guess they don’t have much faith in their guy.]
I had nothing but respect for Bundy before this. His patriotism and defense of those ranchers earned my utmost respect. It reminded me of the Aboriginal Rights Movement patriots in the seventies and eighties, who also staged an armed sit-in.
Not anymore. Bundy has revealed his true colors as a degenerate scumbag.
The same people that are in the “vaccine” business also created these “novel” viruses. The current “novel”(new) corona virus is corona+ SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and the AIDS envelope. A lab created bio weapon!! It is spread like flu/cold, the AIDS envelope attaches itself to your helper(white) cells, then gives the RNA(new SARS instructions) to your white cells, and then your white cells’ “new mission” is to kill you instead of protect you! Dr. “FAUCI” rushed the “swine flu” vaccine into use that killed more people than the swine flu. These people are genocidal globalists and think that humans are the infection and are speeding toward a vaccination “police state”. Go ahead and roll your sleeve up, they are happy to kill you! Why do you think that they are trying so hard to suppress the use of these 65 year old malaria drugs that have saved thousands of people around the world? It interferes with the reprogrammed immune response and causes you to shed the virus. NOOO, a 65 year old drug that IS WORKING is only “anecdotal”. But being a human lab rat for new vaccine is not anecdotal????
It is hard to watch our president being controlled by this sniveling little weasel!
Took the words right out of (our) mouth. Fauci & Birks are both anti trumpers not to mention sniveling democrat weasels. My wife refers to them as “scorpions”. Trump is almost surrounded by Obama leftovers not to mention pretend conservatives otherwise known as Neocon republicans.
Trump is a big fan of Fauci. Fauci has nothing but praise for Donald Trump’s handling of the situation.
Donald Trump emphatically pushed the anti-malaria drug. Thanks to his efforts, it has been cleared for human trials and will likely save countless lives. The Democrats banned it in their states to make Trump look bad.
As for vaccines:
https://blog.ucbmsh.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Tetanus.jpg
^ When your child looks like this after he gets tetanus (because you refused the shot), I hope your degenerate, uncivilized ignorance is your consolation.
Lead on!